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Mathias Mas's avatar

There’s no escaping from Kant, his whole system is set up as a genius ontological/epistemological trap. Kant famously ate qualia for breakfast, phenomena for lunch and philosophy of mind for dinner!

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Hi Daniel. I’ve been challenging people like Dennett and Frankish too. I’m not sure if Kant will get you there in the end, but also consider my approach.

What do illusionists deny? I gained a good answer from Eric Schwitzgebel’s innocent/wonderful conception of consciousness, a paper written as a challenge to Keith Frankish. It taught me that they simply deny magical conceptions of consciousness, as in “ineffable”, “private”, and all the rest. So fine, I don’t believe in magical consciousness either (or magical anything). But here’s the thing. Illusionists do believe in one thing regarding consciousness that seems quite magical.

I began with Searle’s Chinese room. Don’t illusionists grasp the magic of saying that a room where Searle is using a rule book to assess Chinese input characters so that appropriate output characters can be created, will not “understand” Chinese? No? Maybe this is because “understanding” is a slippery term? We all understand thumb pain however, don’t we?

Here I observed that when my thumb gets whacked, associated information is neurally sent to my brain about the event. This should in some sense then be processed into new information, or the very thing that illusionists consider to mandate my thumb pain. Thus theoretically if there were marks on paper that were highly correlated with the information that my whacked thumb sends my brain, and it were scanned into a computer for algorithmic processing to print out paper with marks on it that highly correlate with my processed brain information, then something here should feel the very same thing I do when my thumb gets whacked! I consider this magical because in a causal world, information should only exist as such to the extent that it informs something causally appropriate. So my brain’s processed information should be informing something not yet determined which exists as me the experiencer of thumb pain.

If you check out my full post, first go directly to the AI podcast from Notebook LM. This was my first experiment with it, and I’m still blown away by how much better these “people” were able to say what I was trying to.

https://eborg760.substack.com/p/post-3-the-magic-of-computational

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